Tuesday, August 25, 2015

LLCs Still Don't Have Corporate Veils. Really.

I know I am Johnny One Note on this, but while researching another project, I decided to check again if litigators (and courts) are still referring to veil piercing of LLCs as "corporate veil piercing." As I have noted before, for LLCs, it should be "piercing the LLC veil" or, more generally, "piercing the limited liability veil."  Or "PLLV," as I like to call it. (Not as catchy is "PCV," but it is far more universally accurate.)

Sure enough, last week, a New York court refused to denied the defendants' motion to dismiss the plaintiff's third amended complaint, deciding that "Plaintiff has adequately pled facts sufficient to defeat the Individual Defendant's motion to dismiss Plaintiff's claim for piercing the corporate veil." Capital Inv. Funding, LLC v. Lancaster Grp. LLC, No. CIV.A. 8-4714 JLL, 2015 WL 4915464, at *7 (D.N.J. Aug. 18, 2015).  But Plaintiff is seeking to piercing the veil of an LLC.  As such, I think they need a fourth amended complaint.  

Also last week, in an unpublished opinion, a Minnesota court upheld a decision to pierce the limited liability veil of Alpha Law Firm, LLC.  The court found the court below "did not abuse its discretion by piercing Alpha's corporate veil." Guava LLC v. Merkel, No. A15-0254, 2015 WL 4877851, at *8 (Minn. Ct. App. Aug. 17, 2015). Again, though, the LLC did not have such a veil because it was not a corporation.  

This should be easier to keep straight in Minnesota than most places. Minnesota has a statute the specifically allows for LLC veil piercing, and states that the corporate law concept applies to the LLC.  But it also calls it "piercing the veil" in the LLC statute, which means the veil is an LLC veil, and not a corporate one.  The statute: 

MINN. STAT. ANN. § 322B.303(2)

. . . .

Subd. 2.Piercing the veil. The case law that states the conditions and circumstances under which the corporate veil of a corporation may be pierced under Minnesota law also applies to limited liability companies.

I am sympathetic (to a point).  As Guava points out, when a statute brings corporate veil piercing into the LLC world, it can be awkward.  Another excerpt from Guava makes that obvious:

Hansmeier next challenges the district court's decision to pierce on the merits. “In certain circumstances, it is possible to ‘pierce the corporate veil’ and hold a shareholder personally liable .” Gunderson v. Harrington, 632 N.W.2d 695, 705 (Minn.2001) (Gilbert, J., dissenting) (citing Victoria Elevator Co. of Minneapolis v. Meriden Grain Co., 283 N.W.2d 509, 512 (Minn.1979)). Veil piercing applies to LLCs as well as corporations. Minn.Stat. § 322B.303, subd. 2 (2014). A court may pierce a corporate veil when there is fraud or when the shareholder is the “alter ego” of the corporation. Gunderson, 632 N.W.2d at 705.
Guava, 2015 WL 4877851, at *6.
 
LLCs don't have shareholders, they have members, so that's a little confusing.  And note how the courts operates back and forth between corporate and LLC concepts.  It can be complex. Still, I'd really like a court in every state to take the time to set the standard and separate the concepts, so that future courts can always have a place to cite.  Consider this as an alternative paragraph for Guava
 
Hansmeier next challenges the district court's decision to pierce on the merits. “In certain circumstances, it is possible to ‘pierce the corporate veil’ and hold a shareholder personally liable .” Gunderson v. Harrington, 632 N.W.2d 695, 705 (Minn.2001) (Gilbert, J., dissenting) (citing Victoria Elevator Co. of Minneapolis v. Meriden Grain Co., 283 N.W.2d 509, 512 (Minn.1979)). A court may pierce a corporate veil when there is fraud or when the shareholder is the “alter ego” of the corporation. Id. at 705. Veil piercing applies to LLCs as well as corporations. Minn.Stat. § 322B.303, subd. 2 (2014). Thus, a court may pierce the veil of an LLC when there is fraud or when the member is the “alter ego” of the LLC. See Minn.Stat. § 322B.303, subd. 2 (2014); Gunderson, 632 N.W.2d at 705.
Just a thought. 

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Comments

No more frustrating than when courts call LLCs limited liability corporations. LOL.

Posted by: Tom N. | Aug 26, 2015 5:12:52 AM

I really love that you are tracking this, Josh. We demand precision from our students. We should also continue to demand it from the judiciary and practitioners, as well as commentators. BRAVO! Encore une fois!

Posted by: joanheminway | Aug 26, 2015 8:14:17 AM

Agreed. We can add these language slips to the stack of decisions talking about "limited liability corporations," "shares," etc.
At the upcoming ABA BLS Annual Meeting in Chicago, Steve Frost will be leading a program on how the use of corporate terms in LLCs (e.g., authorized shares") leads to problems.

Posted by: Tom Rutledge | Aug 28, 2015 6:38:26 AM

Some courts are aware of the difference but use the "wrong" terminology for the sake of some kind of doctrinal continuity. See, e.g., Pannell v. Shannon, 425 S.W.3d 58, 75 (Ky. 2014) ("The term 'corporate veil' is used, despite an LLC being a different type of entity from a corporation, because the doctrine grew out of corporate law.").

Posted by: S.C. | Aug 28, 2015 1:30:29 PM

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