Sunday, July 20, 2008

3,000 migrants dead: Does anyone care?

First_img Following up on Buill Hing's post yesterday, here is a list of the casualty's from CRLA Foundation's www.stopgatekeeper.com

CALIFORNIA ·· Víctor Nicolás Sánchez · Adolfo Pérez Hernández · Daniel Barrientos · Santos Orozco Aguilar · Raúl Hernández Soria · Sandra Edna Durán · Jesús Medina Contreras · Edgar Venegas Brambila · José Gutiérrez · Melquíades Gómez Baca · Martha Rivera García · Benito González Cruz · Benito González Serrano · Javier Rojas Bracamonte · Juan José Romo Zetina · José Luis Garza · Roberto Acegueda López · Román Robles Rojas · Reynaldo González Corona · Juan Lara Mentado · José Santos López Fonseca · Luis Ramírez Escobar · Felipe Aragón Anzaldo · Salvador Sánchez Sánchez · Reyes Jiménez Zamora · Javier Zataraín Gamboa · José Guadalupe Martínez · Celerino Alvarado · Benito Pacheco López · Marcelino Ramírez · Lorenzo Gaytán Ramírez · Cipriano Orozco · Pedro Calixto Maganda López · Eliseo Santos Carmona · José Luis Centeno · Zenaido García de Los Santos · José Manuel de La Luna · Martín Leonardo Hernández · Modesta López · Olivia Cruz Juárez · Carlos Bejar Vázquez · Alejandro Cornejo Reséndiz · Felipe de los Santos · Enedina Beatriz Enciso Palma · Juan Guillén Domínguez · Benito Ávalos Romero · Juan Carlos Córdova · Sergio Jiménez Villanueva · Antonio Zacarías González · Gregorio Ortiz · Pedro Morales Ramírez · Félix Zavala Ramírez · José Manuel Moreno · Guillermo Ayala Méndez · Daniel Loera Salinas · Carlos Loera Salinas · Gustavo Barajas · Oscar Alcalá Gopar · Práxedis Salinas Palma · Juan Pablo Córdova · Ramiro Castorena Martínez· Álvaro Padilla Herrera · Virginia Murillo Díaz · Nicolás Méndez · Alfonso Villalobos Rodríguez · Gustavo Bañuelos · Onésimo Ledezma Hernández · Enrique López Maciel · Héctor Daniel Torres · Luis Oswaldo García Bando · Raúl Castro Ortiz · Abrahán Tomás Cortés· Roberto Valdez Valencia · Roberto González · Rafael Valenzuela Zúñiga · Teresa Urbano García · Lorenzo Barrera Cortez · Benjamín Zaragoza Arias · Jorge Ramírez Amarillas · Pablo Meraz Rosales · Eloise Maya Rodríguez · Roberto Vázquez · Joel Godoy Juárez · José Herrera Martínez · Juan José Pérez González · Raúl Santana Nájera · Raúl Anzures Galarza · Osvelia Tepek · Trinidad Santiago Martínez · Catalina Enríquez Néstor · Gustavo Muñoz Cázares · Gerardo Gaspar Chompa · Alejandro Ramos Zavala · Juan Magaña Hernández · Emigdio Vera Pérez · José González Chacoya · Alejandro Mendoza Pacheco · Rosario Torres Pérez · Osvaldo Serrano Reyes · Enrique Santos Nieto · Aristeo López García · Isaías López Alvarado · Joaquín Mendoza Chávez · Francisco Ramón Segura Saldaña · Alfonso Guillén Guillén · Ismael García Vásquez · Herminio Martínez Altamirano · Alfredo Barriga Ruiz · Roberto Sánchez · Mario Alfredo Clemente Díaz · Antonio Rocha Trejo · Rafael Arias Sotero · Agustín Chaparro Huitrón · Héctor Jesús Méndez Brown · Verónica Manzanares Cárdenas · Fredi Barrera Sánchez · Pastor Raya Zamora · Yuridia Rodríguez Sánchez · José Luis Rey Lugo Vidal · José Froylán Morales Camacho · Gregorio López Otero · Daniel Martínez Osvaldo · Isabel Gabiño Díaz · Gil Aroche Ayala · Armando Gilberto Quiroz Jiménez · Guillermo Rodríguez Barajas · Fernando González Gallegos · Rodolfo García Campuzano · Rafael Espinoza Espinoza · Guadalupe Romero González · Ramón Arenas Olmedo · José Alfredo Godoy Chávez · María González Flores · Ana Gabriela González López · Víctor Manuel Ramírez Ochoa · Jorge Chaparro Garduño · César Pineda Vizcaíno · Clara Zaldívar García · Juan Ochoa Valencia · Germán Santos Cruz · Maximino Rojas Cordero · Valentín Monge Cárdenas · María Torres Contreras · José Carmen Herrera Orea · Domingo Estrada Pérez · Roberto Ramírez González · Pablo Ramírez González · Marco Antonio Bustamante · Apolinaria Santiago Hernández · Evedo Osorio López · Guillermo Osorio López · Gerardo Escobar Luévano · Juan Manuel Rodríguez Vásquez · Rodolfo Gómez López · Oswaldo Zamorano González · Juan Carlos Purata Purata · Gil Félix Medina · Serafín Andrade · José Carmen Raya Hernández · Remigio Salomón Barrientos · Bertha Carrillo Topete · José Ramírez Tirado · Cruz Piña Reyes · Noé Beltrán Mendoza · Ulises Ortiz Cruz · Florencio Mendoza Luciano · Roberto Xoyatla Orzuna · Arturo Mercado Arriaga · Victorino López Santiago · Moisés Díaz García · Mario Carrillo Ruiz · Juan Gabriel Gregorio Granados · Cristina González Ramírez · Pedro Ismael Orozco Gómez · Adán Mosqueda García · Emeterio Castañeda Aguirre · José Espinoza · Longinos Benítez Barrera · Raúl González Cruz · Julio Manuel Flores Salazar · Margarita Campos Romero · Roberto Bailón Camacho · Bellanira Ramos González · Juan Domínguez Morales · Guadalupe Ramírez · Francisco Morales Olvera · Francisco Paredes · Miguel Ángel García Navarrete · María del Carmen Dorantes Durán · Marcelino Valdivia Montes · Raúl Mendoza Díaz · Manuel Carrillo Rivera · Osvaldo González Guzmán · José Refugio Valle Gamiño · Roberto Saavedra Carrazco · Daniel Hernández González · Aureliano Cabrera Morales · Justino Rugerio Rodríguez · Felipe López Rodríguez · Antonio Morales Morales · Irma Estrada Gutiérrez · Wilfrido Santiago Alvarado · Fernando Salguero Lachino · Noel Guzmán González · Julio César Gallegos Durán · Evaristo Carrasco Luna · Eduardo Díaz Hernández · Cayetano Robles de la Torre · Luis Illescas González · William Benítez Cervera · Guillermo Cedillo Balderas · Margarita Melchor Rangel · Natalio Teodoro Solís · Pedro Felipe Juárez · Luis Manuel Ramírez Melgoza · Raúl Figueroa Cortés · Marcos Sánchez Sarabia · Adán Figueroa Ortiz · Homero Meza Fernández · Álvaro Rueda Hernández · Antonio Rentería Martínez · Óscar Cardoso Varón · Uriel Asunción Hernández · Celia Flora González Reyes · Víctor Aguilar Fernández · Efraín Barragán · Óscar Abel Córdova Vélez · Leonel Huicaza Valenzuela · Antonio Galván Carrillo · Fernando Mejía Alamilla · Epifanio Cárdenas Silva · Adrián Rogel Jaime · Olegario Márquez Morales · Isidro Zavala Lerma · Jesús Zavala Lerma · Andrés Valerde Hernández · José González Betan · Abel Uribe Mercado · Edithtrudis Agatón Flores · Juan Eduardo Chávez Campos · Jesús Nolasco García · Ambrosio Ramírez Olivera · Carlos Segura Rosales · Jorge Alvarado Hernández · Felipe de Jesús Cervantes Hernández · Joel León Montenegro · Armando Hernández López · Jaime Suárez Cázares · Daniel Toro López · José Ángel Leobardo Márquez García · Gonzalo Cardeña Solorza · Andrés Artemio Ríos Canseco · Filemón Bañuelos Herrera · José Ricardo Ríos Aguilar · Alejandro Rodríguez Cazorla · Samuel Yépez Cervantes · Martín Mendoza Blaz · Rogelio Rodríguez Cobarrubias · Javier Martínez Fuentes · Antonio Ventura Torres · José René Benítez Tadillo · Jaime Rocha Franco · Sebastián Díaz Ávila · Juan Martín Picasso Vega · José Ricardo Ríos Aguilar · Jaime Martínez Martínez · Pedro Pérez Pedroza · Moisés Pérez Pedroza · Amado Morales Herrera · José Luciano Pérez Madrid · Rodrigo Olmos Esparza · Ildegardo Esteban Miranda · Óscar Vicencio Reyes · Irineo Aguilar Soto · Everardo García Estrada · José García Proaño · Alfredo Rodríguez Ramos · María del Socorro Duarte Negrete · Enrique Luna Alaniz · Miguel Ángel Pérez Salazar · Timoteo Roblero Morales · José Jiménez Toala · Fabián Gutiérrez Rico · Oliver Mosqueda del Castillo · Mauricio Gutiérrez Lozano · Julio Millán Ávila · Loreto González Molina · Adelaida Hernández Luna · Arturo Magallón Galarza · María Félix Tepal González · Silvia Barrera Tapia · Romualdo López Fuentes · Teresa Inés Vera Navarrete · María Cruz Rosas · Marlene Tapia Gutiérrez · Evaristo González Mendoza · José Jorge Rivera Zúñiga · Ana María Padilla Echeverría · Miguel Zaragoza Santiago · Juan Manuel Rodríguez Ramírez · Leticia Hernández Sánchez · Ismael Apolinar · Osvaldo Martínez García ·Iraida Medina Aguirre · Margarita Villa Rodríguez · Raymundo Sánchez Gómez · Onésimo García Ramírez · Melitón Juárez Cruz · Noé Juárez Cruz ·Rubén Barragán Larios · Jesús Manuel González Aguilera · Sergio Figueroa Ceja · Javier López ·Gustavo Uribe Durón · David Hernández Zúñiga · José Encarnación García Valle · Pablo Alberto Álvarez García · Carlos Adrián Corona Jiménez · Pedro López López · Luis Alejandro Bautista · Guadalupe Zacarías Hernández · Héctor Manuel Osaki Carreras ·Hugo Serrano Ángeles · Mario Orozco Zurita · Macario Vázquez Zurita · Manuel Moranchel Quintero · Roberto Montiel · Serafín Rivera López · Marcelo Figueroa Vázquez · Cupertino Retama Solís · Fernando Dimas Bernal · Margarita Jarquín Pérez · Jorge Lemus Contreras · Emeterio Flores Sotelo · Inocente Bueno Eriza · José Ediberto Rodríguez Ruiz · Gerardo Torres Ramírez · Arcadio Rodríguez Pérez · Guillermo Valdovinos García · Rafael Silva Romero · Arturo Suástegui Altamirano · Juan Luis Romero Garnica · Alejandro Jiménez Ruiz · Luis Ortiz Murillo · José Manuel López Guzmán · Felipe de Jesús Díaz · José Antonio Flores Pérez · Belzar Haro Rodríguez · José Julián Gómez Ponce · Roberto Ávila Rodríguez · José Luis Uriostegui · Roberto García Hernández · Miguel Estanislao Vicente · Antonio Gutiérrez Sánchez · José Arnulfo Estrada Pérez · Antonio Figueroa Velásquez · Nicolás Pablo Sánchez Martínez · Nemesio Castañeda Vargas · Manuel López Sánchez · Gabriel Vargas Méndez · José González de Santos · José Roberto Haros Avitia · Trinidad Orozco Hernández · Marcelino Diego Castro · Jesús Plascencia Peinado · Leonardo Plascencia Morales · Roberto Castell Guzmán · Manuel Hernández Solís · Jorge García Rivera · Jorge Lua Landín · Efigenia Chávez Solorio · José Antonio Araujo Álvarez · Efrén Ruiz Reynoso · Enrique Belman Díaz · Carmen Albarrán Romero · Irma Castillo Hernández · José Trinidad Ruiz Lozano · Fidel Ramírez López · Vicente Coto Muñoz · Rubén Mendoza Sánchez · Horacio García Vásquez · María Mota López · Alma Rosa Pérez García · Amelia Calvo Asunción · Luisa Olivera Santos · Gerardo Martínez Castro · José Luis Pantoja Arteaga · Feliciano Canseco Aguilar · Luis Morales Acosta · Jesús Herrera Romero · Prócoro Monterrosas Serrano · José Arturo Gutiérrez Salinas · Arturo Domínguez Moreno · Plutarco Ambriz Ambriz · Efraín Morales Cervantes · Raúl Hernández Echeverría · Aarón Vega Cruz · Johnathan Zaldívar Mimila · Juana Francisca Castellanos García · Miguel Castellanos García · Salvador Castellanos García · Juan Marcial Albino · Agustín Romero Luna · Jesús Márquez Pacheco · Santos Velásquez Villegas · Héctor Rubén Moreno Valle · Antonio Ramírez Vargas · José Trinidad Hernández Atilano · Salvador Gerardo Sánchez Hernández · Maricarmen Risas Ponce · Luis Campa Molina · Cliserio Cristóbal Castañeda · Bernardino Valdez Huendo · Raúl Alfonso Campos Favila · Héctor Uriza Garzón · Margarita Hernández Rodríguez · Roberto González Pantoja · Nilson López Vallinas · Luis Manuel Aguilar García · Leticia Torres Solís · Hugo Barajas Pérez · Bertha de la Merced Tapia · Cristina Castro Lucas · Arnulfo Flores Badillo · Edgar Adrián Martínez · Mario Castillo Fernández · Julián Ambros Málaga · Enrique Landero García · Reyno Bartolo Fernández · Raymundo Barreda Maruri · Raymundo Barreda Landa · Alejandro Marín Caludio · Lorenzo Hernández Ortiz · Heriberto Badillo Tapia · Sergio Ruíz Marín · Marina Juárez Herrera · Efraín González Manzano · Jesús Ulloa González · Irene Islas Morales · Alberto Vigueras Alejandre · Luis Urzua Delgadillo · Anselmo Catalán Nava · Carlota de la Cruz Flores · Sergio Hernández Jiménez · Wilfrido Valdez San Agustín · Agustín Torres García · Javier Hernández Hernández · Rosa Espino Jacobo · Arturo López Cevallos · Heraclio de Jesús Morales · Pedro Zaya Vergara · Miguel Ángel García Torres · Humberto Díaz Hernández · Ignacio de Loya Carmona Carmona · José René Labastida Cortez · Natalia Pérez Hernández · Víctor Ever Murillo Arzate · Margarita Miranda Martínez · Manuel de Jesús Espinoza Gallegos · Rogelio Meléndez Sánchez · Marcelino González Aquino · María del Carmen León Camacho · Salvador Botello Cortés · María Isabel Pacheco Madera · Quirino Lara Primo · Gonzalo Mora Carrillo · Socorro Arroyo Hernández · David Barrios Pérez · Samuel Núñez Cruz · Refugio Belisario Jiménez · David de Jesús Flores Villarreal · Esteban Eleazar Alcántara · Alberto Aparicio Hernández · Arturo Arriaga Villa · Luz María Centeno Zárate · Humberto Abad Carpio · Alejandro Acuña Isaías · Oseas Díaz Montejo · Austreberto Pérez López · Zacarías Hernández Díaz · Esperanza Vallejo Hernández · Rafael Carrillo Méndez · Sósimo Miguel Rodríguez · Juan Antonio Gómez Díaz · José Carmen Pamatz Molinero · Luis Ernesto Gil Cota · Julio César Hernández Morales ·?José Luis Vásquez Gutiérrez · Joel Aguilar Pérez · Ramón Díaz García · Raúl Lule Hernández · Daniel Castro Bayón · Rogelio Contreras Navarrete · Gustavo Chávez Muñoz · Rubén Salcido Mesa · José I. Márquez Cervantes · Marcelino Luna Cabrales · María Pinita Ramírez Marques · Luis Francisco Hernández López · Martín Gómez Horte ·?José Antonio Alcaraz ·?David Girón López ·?Rubén Pérez Sánchez ·?Guadalupe Fragoso Dávalos ·?Manuel López López ·?Cresencio García Estrada · Néstor García Aburto ·?José Luis Pérez Cruz ·?Romualdo Quintero Gutiérrez · ?Adolfo Ríos López ·?Justino Hernández Barrios ·?Pedro Jiménez Briones · Jorge A. Salas García·?Cristóforo Meza García ·?Orlando Eric Altamirano Jiménez ·?Martín Aguilar Meza ·?Zeferino Pérez Padilla· Florina Pérez Padilla ·?Martha Olivia Cevallos García ·?Ismael Bravo Vargas· Alejandro Gomes Farías ·?José Guadalupe Carcamo Ortigaza ·?Ana María Vargas Mendoza ·?Isaac González Cevallos · Juan Hernández Gamino · Victoria Sánchez Gasca · Elvia Rumbo Leyva · Moisés Fitz Flores · Esteban Nieto Caballo · Rodolfo Jáuregui Quiñónez · Mario Alberto Bastidas Jiménez · Juval Martínez Jiménez · Juan José Escalera Valdez · Juan Santiago Ocampo · Claudia Morales Salinas · Juan Carlos Quero Quero · Marcos César Moreno Solano · Arturo Martínez Olmos · Edgar Valdez García · Paulino Solís Verduzco · Eduardo Díaz Estrada · Gildardo Díaz Guerra · Luis Alonso Ceja González · Juventino Bravo Curiel · Jesús Eduardo Cervantes Camacho · Mario Ortega Pérez · Leonardo Sánchez Placido · Severiano Miguel López · Gustavo Sánchez Delgado · Javier Margarito Cortez · Gerardo Bailón Martínez · Eréndira Jiménez García · Santos Jiménez Pagle · Alma Rosa Cárdenas Moreno · José Luis Baltasar Santiago · Leonides Ortega Melo · J. Guadalupe Damián Govea · Esteban Vargas Lemos · Salomón Vega Guerrero · Maribel Solís Blas · Juan Piña Soto · Julio César Villegas Gómez · Ana María Morales · Verónica García Álvarez · Fernando López Coria · Francisco Gómez Anaya · Héctor Chavarín Zárate · Adriana Patricia Zavala Negrete · Raúl Sánchez Chávez · Rosa Lilia Parada Bermúdez · Juan Armando de León Pérez · Jaime Zúñiga Barragán · Reynaldo Velenzuela Camacho · José Refugio Ortega Nieves · Rosalba Maldonado Romero · Carlos Echeverría Bribiezca · Iván Escalante Maldonado · Rufino Cordero Castillo · Martín Vilchis Ángeles · Francisco Juárez Ozuna · Gabriel Álvaro López Herrera · Pedro Ramírez · Marcos Gildardo Montes · Rosa Valencia Torres · Rafael Mata García · Jesús Saénz Mendoza · Felipe M. Ramírez · José Jesús Santana · María del Consuelo Morales Ávalos · Luisa Zagal García · Lorena García Temozihui · Estanislao Torres Coria · Emilio Ramírez Morato · María Oralia Varela Padilla · Pedro Contreras González · Noé Carreón Rojas · Gustavo Vallejo Delgadillo · Elvia Huerta Gocobachi · José Luis Nicolás González · Miguel Ángel Duarte Meza · Víctor Arzola Méndez · Raúl Garibay Alvarado · Gabriel Mercado Cota · Víctor Carrillo Medina · Tomasa Ochoa Zamora · José Antonio Bautista Herrera · Bernardino López Gabriel · María del Carmen Rodríguez Martínez · María del Pilar González Hernández · Gumercindo Reyes Loxada Hipal · Onésimo Salazar Cruz · Manuel Pérez Chávez · Eliseo Benítez Santos · Rubén Salcido Meza · José I. Márquez Cervantes · Dionisio Alvarado Gutiérrez · Alejandro Gómez Farías · José Guadalupe Carcamo Ortigoza · Felipe de Jesús Aviña Jiménez · Carlos Manuel Rivera Chávez · Leandro Leyva Luna · Miguel Mejía Amarillas · Miguel Castro Rodríguez · María Oralia Varela Padilla · María Isabel de la Cruz Medina · Rubén Vargas Bernal · Erick José Antonio Noriega Patiño · Iván Fontes López (Alejandro) · Alvino López Bautista · Angélica Echiveste Limón · Gerardo Rodríguez Zaranda · Alejandra García Álvarez · Lorena García Temozihui · Estanislao Torres Coria · Emilio Ramírez Morato · María Oralia Varela Padilla · Pedro Contreras González · Noé Carreón Rojas · Gustavo Vallejo Delgadillo · Elvia Huerta Gocobachi · José Luis Nicolás González · Miguel Angel Duarte Meza · Víctor Arzola Méndez · Raúl Garibay Alvarado · Gabriel Mercado Cota · Víctor Carrillo Medina · Tomasa Ochoa Zamora · José Antonio Bautista Herrera · Bernardino López Gabriel · María del Carmen Rodríguez Martínez · María del Pilar González Hernández · Gumercindo Reyes Loxada Hipal · Onésimo Salazar Cruz · María Isabel de la Cruz Medina · Rubén Vargas Bernal · Erick José Antonio Noriega Patiño · Iván Fontes López (Alejandro) · Alvino López Bautista · Angélica Echiveste Limón · Gerardo Rodríguez Zaranda · Alejandra García Álvarez · Víctor Mondragón de Jesús · Aurelio Ramírez Barraza · José Ciriaco Monroy Chávez · René Salvador Ramírez · Guillermo Feria Morales · Isidro López Navarrete · José Luis Salazar Chairez · Ignacio Solís Montiel ·· ARIZONA ·· Juan Ezequiel Gutiérrez Andrade · Evelio López Laines · Rosa Palomino Pérez · Raúl Mendoza · Everardo Amaya · Jiménez · Ana Claudia Villa Herrera · Miguel Ángel Vázquez Godínez Elidia Martínez Macario · Rolando Morales Solano · Arturo Acosta Soto · José Martín Molina Panuco · Efraín Molina Ruiz · Abel Acero Díaz · Jorge Ayala Trujillo · Francisco Hernández Morales · Roberto Plascencia González · Pedro Velázquez Quintero · Telésforo Franco Hernández · César Ramos Fernández · Héctor Carrizosa López · Juan Mejía Álvarez · Martín Ortega Campos · Marco Antonio Cortez Iriqui · Marco Antonio Castillo Puga · José Ramón González Salazar · Cuauhtémoc Lavín Valentín · Héctor Lavín Martínez · Martín Martínez Zaragoza · Roberto Ramírez Ramírez · José Guadalupe Llanitos Villalobos · Manuel de Jesús Flores Artalejo · José Antonio Rodríguez Hernández · Aarón Moisés Delgado López · Alejandro Félix Barraza · Carmen Margarita Rodríguez Martínez · Guillermo Barrera · Ana María Pacheco Mejía · Manuel de Jesús García Coronado · Gerardo García Cota · Teófilo Camacho Salinas · José Macías Fernández · Verónica Nadia López Muñoz · María Eugenia Aguillón Díaz · Olivio Velázquez Pérez · Modesto Santos Flores · Francisco Chima Mil · Cirilo Larios Guzmán · Ramón Figueroa Chávez · Abelino Armenta Martínez · Antelma Graciela Castelán Gutiérrez · Cándido Rodríguez Pacheco · Roberto Baltazar de Jesús Zamora · María del Rocío Bravo Candia · Nátali Hipólito Enríquez · Luis Roberto Morales Avendaño · Emma Monteclaro Castillo · Rodolfo Lagunes Beltrones · Rafael Ortega Ramírez · Jesús Vidal Ramírez · María Inés González Álvarez · Jesús Magaña Otero · Alfredo Ubieta Domínguez · José Inés Díaz González · Delia Moreno Pérez · Gerardo Nevares Gallegos · Carlos Miguel González Corona · Edmundo Ángel Selvas Ruiz · Zenón Reséndiz Nieto · Teresa Cabrera Baltasar · Herlindo Martínez de Jesús · Eusebio García Pérez · Julio Alfredo Lagunas Castillo · Enrique Soto Pacheco · Juana Medina Butanda · Marina Montaño Mercado · Héctor Guadalupe Sánchez Murrieta · José César Mendoza Mendoza · Fermín Aguilar Rabadán · Maura Zacarías Sánchez · María Cruz Ruiz · Yolanda González Galindo · Juan Manuel Acosta Rojas · Alberto Márquez Castelán · Víctor Talavera Figueroa · María E. Morales Sierra · Jesús Rodríguez Coronel · Omar Sánchez Guevara · Justino Vidal Bautista · Janet Mata Méndez · Juan Manuel Ruiz Dávalos · Gerardo Rosas Martínez · José Luis Vergara Flores · Juan Rodríguez Sánchez · Víctor H. 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· and approximately 1,000 unidentified migrants...

KJ

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It is a disgrace.

My friend who grew up in the USSR asks me why they don't just shoot illegals as they cross the border. Now, I know how to answer the question.

Posted by: lguerrrr | Jul 20, 2008 10:12:40 AM

Professor, since nobody seems to care, why don't you have some of the students in your classes leave faux comments on this blog so that you can feel better about yourself and trick the other two readers of this blog into believing that people actually do care?

Posted by: Taylor Woolridge | Jul 20, 2008 1:31:08 PM

Who cares? Apparently not the Mexican government, as they do little to keep their own people home. Why should the American people care when the citizens of Mexico don't give a damn. Anyway, as the article that follow shows, the death rate is down. Aren't you happy? Just put more pressure on the border with the Border Patrol, deny illegal aliens work, expedite deportatations and fewer will come. Simple, isn't it? Enforcement decreases the death rate. However, the more that die, the stronger your open border/anti-enforcement position is with a sypathetic public. Apparently you can't have it both ways. Too bad.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/border/91382.php

Published: 07.19.2008
Illegal immigration
Border Patrol: Fewer migrants die in desert
The Associated Press

PHOENIX - The Border Patrol says fewer illegal immigrants are dying along the U.S.-Mexico border this year while trying to sneak into the country.
The Border Patrol says 112 immigrants have died in Arizona's deserts since Oct. 1, and 256 along the U.S.-Mexican border.
That's the lowest to-date death toll since the 2004-2005 fiscal year. In Arizona alone that year, 494 immigrants died.
The Border Patrol says improved security and stricter enforcement is cutting the number of illegal immigrants. Other groups also cite a deteriorating U.S. economy and more violent "coyotes" for part of the drop.

Posted by: Horace | Jul 20, 2008 4:11:50 PM


393359 hits (as of July 20, 2008) Since September 10, 2005

Posted by: KJ | Jul 20, 2008 7:33:25 PM

I feel that Horace certainly has the right to his opinions and Restrictionist views. However, his dispassionate take on migrant deaths is chilling, and gives an entirely different slant to his constant nay-saying of anything constructive that moves toward solving this crisis. For example, his cold blooded statement from earlier this month regarding migrant deaths, "24,000 citizens have died in traffic accidents alone in the U.S. in the first six months of this year, making the loss of 117 foreign nationals insignificant in comparison," shows that the loss of lives are but pawns in his game. His response above to the loss of 3,000 migrant lives, "Who Cares?" leaves little doubt that he doesn't. For Horace to suggest that Professor Johnson should be "happy" that only 256 migrants died since Oct. 1, shows that Horace needs to get a grip on reality. A little perspective, or, God forbid, an ounce of compassion, wouldn't hurt, either.

Posted by: Robert Gittelson | Jul 22, 2008 9:38:02 AM

The fact is Git, more citizens are killed every year in the inner city by illegal alien gang bangers than there have been illegal aliens killed by the desert, yet these advocates would rather lament the deaths of a few hundred foreigners who are dying their own hand. Where is your compassion for those who die at the hands of illegal aliens? It's nowhere to be found, as your only concern is how many cheap laborers are available to your business.

I and others in this country will not let the deaths of these people be used as coercion to abandon our immigration laws. I'm sorry, but I care for the welfare of my country more than I do for Mexicans. Mexico has done nothing to stop these illicit immigrations, so Americans are supposed to make all the sacrifices?

If these immigration lawyers and advocates had any true compassion, they'd set up programs in Mexico to discourage illegal immigration, but they'd rather let this continue and exploit these deaths to serve their own ends, open borders. The numbers have declined, yet the immigration lawyers haven't found this to be good news, making their motives suspect.

As to my restrictionist views, on what basis do you make this claim? Perhaps it's restrictionist to have any immigration system at all, by your definition. The use of the term restrictionist is the same old abusive advocate's equivalent to tar and feathers that we've heard before, and the nation is growing weary of it. How am I restrictionist when I support our current immigration policies which permit more immigration to this country than the rest of the world combined? When the advocates are confronted with this fact, they seem to be at at loss for words. Only those who have no respect for our democracy and the right of the governed to determine their own destiny by enacting law that acts to their best interests would call our immigration policies restrictionist.

Hire any new illegal aliens lately, Git? I expect to hear that ICE has raided your place anytime now, so it's convenient that your wife is an immigration lawyer. I know a good bail bondsman who will give you a good rate.

Posted by: Horace | Jul 22, 2008 3:58:23 PM

Why do people risk their lives in dangerous, illegal entries to the country? Are they irrational people or are they simply making a cost-benefit analysis judging that the risks entailed in such crossings are worth the rewards expected from successfully entering the country? While there were 3000 deaths, there were tens of millions who succeeded and had availed to them the benefits that come to people who are in the country illegally. If people were actually concerned with the deaths that come from such crossings, they would accept that removing the incentives for being inside the country illegally would make taking such risks unlikely. But instead they do the opposite, advocating on every level to make it easier and more beneficial to be an illegal immigrant in the United States. And so the blame should be laid precisely at the feet of open border advocates like those that run this blog. Illegal immigrants die playing the border game because people like these help keep it a game instead of being a part of a coherent, comprehensive enforcement regime that sends a consistent message that is unacceptable to be in the country without legal permission, something that the majority of voters in the country want.

So KJ, look in the mirror to see someone who chooses to pursue their own agenda over any concerns about these deaths, or the notion that government ought to derive its just powers from the consent of the governed, and therefore mass immigration should not come until and unless people like you can convince the majority of the electorate to support it.

Posted by: IH | Jul 23, 2008 8:45:24 AM


I’m probably going to regret this, but I’d like to attempt to reason with Horace and IH, in the good faith hope of constructive dialog. Horace brings up the fact that many people are killed each year by illegal alien gang members. This is a lamentable tragedy, and one can make an argument that these deaths are often all the more tragic due to the fact that many of these deaths are of innocent people that were simply bystanders, whereas migrant deaths, while also tragic, are borne at the risk of the migrant, unless of course the death is of an innocent child, which unfortunately is sometimes the case. I would tie this to something else that Horace writes, “How am I restrictionist when I support our current immigration policies which permit more immigration to this country than the rest of the world combined?”

The connection, as I see it, is that a Restrictionist is, in fact, one who does support our current immigration policies, but restricts his support to those policies, and only those policies. Therein lies the conflict. The current policies clearly are inexorably flawed, or we would not be having any of these conversations in the first place. The current laws need serious “tweaking,” to say the least. That is why the majority of the citizens in our country recognize and support the need for comprehensive reform. If one were to read the STRIVE act, for example, it would immediately become clear that the immediate benefit to our citizens would be on the enforcement end. If the STRIVE act were to be passed into law and enforced to the fullest extent of it’s provisions, we would be able to deport all gang members that were not citizens, even those that had green cards, or were in some way documented. In some cases, it is even possible that under the law, in certain cases, naturalized citizen gang members could have their new-found citizenship revoked, and they could thus be deported.

IH addresses his arguments to Professor Johnson, who certainly doesn’t need me to speak for him, and I don’t presume to. However, IH argues that a “coherent, comprehensive enforcement regime” is needed to discourage illegal migrant crossings, and I couldn’t agree more. However, the key to the phrase is “comprehensive.” If we were to reform our immigration laws comprehensively, which means total workplace enforcement, amplified border enforcement, and the legalization of the undocumented already here, (which is the price we must pay to get the enforcement provisions, or we would shoot ourselves and our southern allies in the foot), then we could discourage much of the illegal migration. This is clearly the only reasonable path forward.

IH proffers the case that, “the notion that government ought to derive its just powers from the consent of the governed, and therefore mass immigration should not come until and unless people like you can convince the majority of the electorate to support it,” speaks to the very essence of why I, and I suspect the authors of this blog, are taking the time to further this discussion. We are, in fact, striving to convince the majority of the electorate to elect to Congress representatives of the people that will support the reform that will address and improve our immigration laws comprehensively. However, contrary to IH’s assertion, it would seem that we, and many others like us, have so far succeeded in convincing a majority of the electorate to do exactly that, if the majority of the polls are to be trusted.

Posted by: Robert Gittelson | Jul 23, 2008 5:49:41 PM

"The current policies clearly are inexorably flawed, or we would not be having any of these conversations in the first place."

You give no proof that the current policies are flawed, unless you're trying to say that these illegal immigrants are somehow morally entitled to get special treatment over those who would use legal mechanisms to apply for and achieve citizenship. What do you say to those who would use our system, Git? Are you telling them that they shouldn't bother, that they should just enter by visa and overstay, or cross our borders illicitly and evade our authorities? I see this problem arising not from racism or xenophobia, but from the fact that we permitted the first amnesty to occur, that earlier amnestied have gained political influence to bully the rest of us. Rather than discouraging further illegal immigration, it encouraged disrespect for our laws and policies. The last amnesty resulted in the current open contempt for our legal system and the right of the American people to govern their own future. It seems that the only defense advocates have for their illegal brethren is that now that the occupiers have successfully set up house and taken advantage of our inadequate immigration enforcement agency, they should be rewarded with the right to stay. This is absurd to the average American.

Every amnesty that occurs calls into question our sovereign right as a nation. Sovereignty by it's definition affirms a nation's moral right to exist. Without defense of sovereignty we are simply a corpse to be picked over by other nations. Remember the Warsaw Pact countries, Git, their sovereignty was lost in the struggle between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Latin American countries are threatening our sovereignty, not by military means, but by their citizens occupying our land, demanding rights to colonize, by procreating and using their birthright children in a coercive manner and gaining political power by using our own Constitution against us through the courts and our own 14th Amendment. California is full of these occupiers. This state has actually gained additional representation through illegal immigration due to its increase in the number of representatives through the census that does not discern between legal residents and illegal aliens. No other nation on this planet would permit such an outrage. No other nation on this planet would permit the forced displacement of its citizens by those of another.

It's greedy people like you, Git, who've contributed to this problem by justifying illegal immigration based upon your personal business needs. If you ever had any integrity, you would support your nation in the face of this invasion that advocates would have us close our eyes to.

Posted by: Horace | Jul 24, 2008 4:04:11 PM

Mr. Gittleson, perhaps you should consult with your lawyer wife before using the word inexorably. I isn't an appropriate usage for your apparent intent.

Posted by: Publius | Jul 26, 2008 7:31:06 PM

To answer the main question. No.

Posted by: Sparky | Jul 31, 2008 3:43:13 PM

I wish I could care, but that is 3000 possible rapist, drunk, illegal aliens that need not be here. They are closing hospitals because these people don't pay their bills, they bring disease to the stores and market place with soiled hands. It is the way they were raised and know no better.

Simply put, ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! You can't change that!

They have the same laws, only their police will shoot you without even getting near a lawyer or court. Left to rot in the southern Mexico area........

Posted by: Dennis | Dec 25, 2008 7:17:13 AM

i wish i could hate i wish i could not care i wish i could forget i wish i could do something i dont wish death on any one i do however wish our new obama would give me the pleasure of asking for property or wages on 7 dependents i raised alone and why cant i walk on into mexico and take what is mine they do it here i never thought mi and my girls would of been the forgetton in the end what gives them the right? the dad no visits in 17 years then he comes to labor and ind. for a settlement for a broken back on wich couch he laid up on of mine for 2 years 360 thou and walked on my twins 18 bday not one doller child support nobody helped hello im a us citisin and i deserve alot of the receiving im getting but they deserve nothing of mine or yours shock em at the border yeah silent shock systems and third time oopps you loose for good that would be dealth if they cant stay out after thous atempts

Posted by: leah | Dec 26, 2008 4:31:01 AM

That's 3,000 people who've died. And they were all trying to make their lives better. The fact that they are crossing illegally doesn't make them bad people. Or rapist, or anything like that. They're trying to get a better life. But no one seems to look at it from that view.

Posted by: Susana Naranjo | Jul 9, 2009 4:36:54 PM

I don't think it's a good idea to be looking for sympathy around here lately - with the health care insurance companies stealing American citizens blind and politicians handing over to them what they don't grab on their own.

What right does any foreign citizen have to use up our health care resources for nothing that even we can't get? Why was he not transported home immediately?

I'd like to be more loving and accepting of my fellow man but not when he steals my limited resources and I cannot afford to pay for my own medication.

Have Americans so easily accepted becoming mere slave laborers themselves that they can be expected to shrug their shoulders and "love" the unfortunate "illegal" immigrants who have come now to take not only their jobs but their health care too?

Stay out of my town please. We have enough trouble making ends meet here. Why would anyone think they are welcome to come to a country to work at jobs when there is now double digit unemployment in America and citizens cannot find employment for themselves?

Is anyone watching here? Get the illegal's out of my country, no matter where their from.

This is plain CRAZY!

Posted by: Joe Johnson | Aug 19, 2009 3:35:19 PM

I dont know!!
"they are taking our jobs" yeah right! like you are going to do like they do, me neither! thats a very hard work that nobody exept mexican can do. "Get illegals out of our country" PLEASE!! and then what? I suppose that you or somebody are going to do their jobs? NOT ME! YOU who works in an office with a/c in a 9-5 job? who is going to pick our vegetables and fruits working outside in a 110F working more than 12 hours each day?. just tell me are you going to do that? NOT ME!

Posted by: Jonathan | Nov 3, 2009 10:40:59 PM

Fun how nobody answered the last question. Perhaps it is because he is telling the truth. I myself came here illegally when I was younger. I was not given a choice in the matter. I worked in the fields in the 110F+ weather doing the work that others wouldn't. I now work in a major grocery store chain as the bookkeeper slash checker. I get to see all walks of life and how they live by the form of payment that they use for their groceries. I see my fellow Mexicans with their dirty hands coming in to pay for their groceries with sweaty smelly money. I see a lot of the whites , Asians and Mexicans a like who see how easy it is to receive benefits for having tons of kids at the cost of taxpayers like myself, eat better than I can, pay with their food stamp card. I have been at my job for ten years and I see the same "families" paying day after day year after year with food stamps. So perhaps we should change the the criteria for benefits that are meant for Americans and to be left only for Americans and not make it so easy to "live the American dream."

Posted by: Pica | May 8, 2010 12:00:42 PM

Death is a tragedy no matter if it is in Mexico or the United States. Jobs are not taken from anyone or given to anyone, they are earned.
My heart aches for the prejudice and the lack of compassion written in these posts. Where is the heart of the American People? What has happened to our heritage?
"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

God made this country great and we turned our back on him.
Now we turn our back on our fellow man.
Soon, we will turn our back on our neighbor and look the
other way. Who will be there to stand in the gap?
Who is going to rise up and protect you?
We were once great and welcomed others to search for their freedom.
All of us at one time or another was an immigrant.
What makes it illegal maybe it should say impossible to get a visa.
Many people I know are not allowed to get Visas.
There are many reasons one may become an illegal or undocumented or without pass immigrant.
Whatever the reason, America has turned it's back from where it once was and I regret to say
we will pay the price.


Posted by: Jamie | Jul 19, 2010 6:28:13 PM

This is crazy. I really would love to see one of you like Horace, Joe Johnson, Dennis, out there in the 110 degree weather from texas doing the roofing, or the brick work, any kind of costruction job. You talk about hispanics taking your jobs please, have you ever even tried to get one of those jobs, i would find that hard to believe. Especially getting paid the amount they do. Who the hell do you think build the house you and your families live in, or picked the fruit and vegetables you eat. EXACTLY The rapist comment is also crazy if you do some minor research you will see that the majority of rapist and child molesters are actually white males....

Posted by: Natalie | Sep 21, 2010 11:55:18 AM

you people make me sick.... You talk so much shit about people you dont even know about... you say they are taking your jobs ... well i dont think you are going to doing framing roofing or carpeting esspessially for poco dinero... Hispanics dont comed cuz they want to make Citezens lifes hell, they come her becuase it is nessassary , to feed thier familys, to get away rom their government. it not cuz they want to but becuase they need too. I am suprised there are so many rasict bastards in this country, we all neded to remember we were all illegal once.

Posted by: taleshaharmonlazaro | Jan 16, 2011 12:45:29 AM

We are all human why and how can anyone even fit these horrible words in the mind..?? Its sad it really is why are you argueing over something that isn't any of ours? I mean if you believe in the lord you surely know this world belongs to him.. and one day none of will be here and yes I'm proud to say my family is a mixture of all races and we all love one and other no matter what,,I've seen a lot growing up and let me tell you what most of you already know due to it all being nothing but true..my mother worked hard all her life took jobs that whites found excuses to not 1 laziness 2. Welfare 3. Just because are these valid excuses? And I'm 37 now I STILL SEE THE SAME THING so yeah they are people who are bold and strong enough to have some dignity and self pride to earn an honest dollar. Sure some steal,fight,sell and use drugs just like most americans oh and yes my mother is a U.S CITIZEN BY BIRTH:-)

Posted by: claudia lerma | Jan 19, 2011 7:59:10 PM

you all have no idea the things they go through to live a better life. you are all ignorant. -Tino

Posted by: Ska | Mar 14, 2011 9:18:53 AM

I'M AN ILLEGAL AND I HAVE A DECENT LIVING THANKS TO ANOTHER ILLEGALS WHY? I HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS TAXES COURT TICKETS, WE DONT WANT PROBLEMS Y WE DONT TAKE JOBS FROM NOBODY WE EARNED. WE OWN HOUSES AND GOOD CARS BECAUSE WE LIKE TO WORK VERY HARD WE DONT EXPECT HELP WE PAY FOR DOCTOR AND DENTIST WHEN ANOTHER BUMPS EXPECT CHECKS FROM THE GOVERMENT AND HOBOS DONT WANT TO WORK !!!!!!! THAT'S SAD ......

Posted by: MARIA PILAR BINGAMAN | Oct 15, 2011 5:42:39 PM

A secure border with wide open gates welcoming all who want to work hard and build a better USA. That's why I voted for John McCain. Obama had a complete magic wand for his first two years in office, he could have done anything and he threw the border and its issues under the bus. If you want CHANGE vote Republican.

Posted by: Bill Heath | May 8, 2012 4:35:30 PM

Approved lol!

A secure border with wide open gates welcoming all who want to work hard and build a better USA. That's why I voted for John McCain. Obama had a complete magic wand for his first two years in office, he could have done anything and he threw the border and its issues under the bus. If you want CHANGE vote Republican.

Posted by: Bill Heath | May 8, 2012 4:36:13 PM

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