June 5, 2008
They Keep Coming! South Carolina's New Immigration Law
Yesterday, we reported on two state and local immigration laws that the courts refused to allow to go into effect. Still, they KEEP COMING! AP reports on South Carolina;s new immigration law:
"The following are highlights of the illegal immigration bill signed into law Wednesday. It will: - Require all businesses to verify that newly hired employees are in the country legally. Public contractors with at least 500 employees must begin verifying their new hires by January. All other businesses must follow by July 2010. - Create civil fines up to $1,000 per worker for failing to verify. - Require employers to temporarily shut down if an investigation finds they knowingly hired illegal immigrants. - Ban illegal immigrants over 18 from public assistance, with some exceptions such as emergency medical care. - Create a felony, punishable by up to five years in prison, for falsifying documents. - Make it a felony to transport or harbor illegal immigrants, though it provides exceptions for some charities, such as churches and soup kitchens. - Ban illegal immigrants from attending public colleges and bar them from winning state scholarships or grants. They would have to pay out-of-state tuition at private colleges. - Allow fired workers to sue their former employers if they're replaced by illegal workers within 60 days. - Bar gun sales to illegal immigrants."
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Of course they do. The states are reflecting the mood of the nation. Only rabid advocates of illegal aliens believe that the nation is tending towards approval of amnesty and a path to citizenship. Ultimately, the will of the people will not be denied and illegal immigration will be curbed and the identity thieves and users of fraudulent Social Security identification cards will be forced out. State after state has taken action and will continue to do so, taking back their right to govern immigration as it was historically done before the turn of the century.
Posted by: Horace | Jun 5, 2008 5:20:07 PM
Nice. Why don't we just continue to use the law to discriminate against people of color in systematic and irresponsible ways. These initiatives are fueled by racist and nativist idealogues. Don't worry though, Horace, your use of the law to further these ideologies will show themselves to be no more than a corrupt manipulation of the law.A rather fitting use of our political system considering the amount of corrupution found in all levels of our government.
Your premise that the people are reclaiming their government, is no more than weak rhetoric with little backing from reality. The same rhetoric that was used to say African-Americans weren't people and that women shouldn't vote.
Best of luck.
Posted by: RRP | Jun 6, 2008 11:35:06 AM
"...corrupt manipulation of the law."
I see. When illegal alien advocates do everything in their power to disrupt enforcement of the law, even to the point of harboring or exploiting illegal aliens its ok. But when the citizens that are enfranchised with the democratic right to vote demand the enforcement of their immigration laws it's characterized as manipulation.
" Your premise that the people are reclaiming their government, is no more than weak rhetoric with little backing from reality. The same rhetoric that was used to say African-Americans weren't people and that women shouldn't vote."
The people in question are illegal aliens, not citizens, who by definition are not permitted to stay here. They are no more enfranchised to govern the future of this country than a foreign visitor to Disney World on a tourist passport. Illegal aliens have no right to avoid apprehension and deporation, regardless of color, or the desires of their aider and abettor illegal alien advocates. The reality is that illegal aliens have very little support from the general public, as indicated by the lack of protest by the general populace and the fact that local and state governments are enacting ordinance in support of federal laws. Advocates have only managed to offend the populace in general, but their audacious and oviously specious claims to main a presence for their friends and family members. Just about every protest effort has been ignored or condemned by the vast majority of Americans. Your comparison with the civil rights movement is hardly apt, as the Constitution does not declare that foreigners have the right to immigrate to this country. No fundamental rights are in question, period.
The race card is convenient for Latino illegal immigrant supporters due to the fact that the majority of their constituents are Amerindian. Their logic is that if a law may be abused by racial profiling, it should be declared unconstitutional. However, that would permit judicial nullification of any law that would affect one ethnic group more than another, even if the law is morally justifiable. As an example, perhaps our laws against murder should be declared unconstitutional because black people commit more murders in the inner city, after all, couldn't the law be abused by racial profiling? Just about any law could fall victim to similar claims.
State and local governments have always supported enforcement of federal law. If the readers of the blog would actually read their Constitution, they'd realize that the only power that the government has relating to immigration is the right to establish naturalization rules. Long after the Constitution was enacted, states continued to be involved in immigration matters, and that wasn't questioned until the late 1800's. If the Constitution fails to explicitly grant sole right to govern immigration to the federal government or prohibit the states from involving themselves in immigration, then the Constitution says that the latter may enact their own laws. The federal government cannot invoke the Supremacy Clause, as that is reserved for situations where it has sole responsibility, else the states can never claim to have any rights at all. Any state rights could simply be declared null and void by federal law. Since even federal or state judiciaries do not have it within their power to amend the Constitution, any past rulings that may have resulted in the federal government usurping immigration authority are in and of themselves unconstitutional. And don't bother citing immigration case law, as there are no doubt may recent rulings on immigration that have been made based on case law that have weak and unconstitutional foundations. Such rulings are the true instances of "...corrupt manipulation of the law."
Posted by: Horace | Jun 7, 2008 12:01:00 PM
God, I do love a good debate early in the morning. Horace, I must say that you are a very factual and engaging speaker. As the husband of a LEGAL immigrant and a newly naturalized US citizen, who went through all the proper channels for her citizenship, I applaud the new laws as well as my wife. We've both been of the belief that only those who are here legally and are following the laws and not being a burden on society's welfare systems. As my wife puts it, "Illegals should be deported, denied any state and local services and funding." Now this is coming from an immigrant that followed the rules, pay her dues and became a Naturalized American Citizen.
Posted by: Walter | Jun 11, 2008 5:57:33 AM
I've only got one thing to say, receiving citizenship is not a stroll in the park. There have been many cases where some immigrants try to do things right and try to get their citizenship or at least their residency, but instead of receiving it, they receive a falsifying promise and the money they worked so hard for down the drain. When the day comes that the lord call our name, and we're buried 200 ft down in the earth and the worms feast on our flesh, where are these "papers" going to? Are we going to need a visa to get to God? Once we die, we wont be able to take anything with us except our souls, so why are we debating on who's the belongs in the US and who's the pest. I know we have heard this phrase over and over when we were young "the more we get together, the happier we'll be". Why can't we all just get along and enjoy this beautiful land that God has given to every human that's been created by him because God doesn't label his children as immigrants or citizens.
Posted by: R.M. Rivers | Jun 15, 2008 9:02:18 PM
me and my husband have been together for 8 years and they only give citizinship to the people with money. you have to relize america was found because of immagrants. yea you brake the law u get deported but if your trying to better yourself why would you stop them. they only take the jobs that americans where not doing in the first place and get payed in dirt.....dont make a dision based one ones mistake they are not from a different world they are people just like me and you.
Posted by: unknown | Apr 18, 2011 9:35:48 AM
amen to the one who posted before me
you ignorant ppl talk and educate kids to believe this is the country of opportunity that all is equal you even teach young hispanics to pledge to a flag that isnt theirs and they do it for respect a respect most of you dont deserve if it was so easy to obtain citizenship why would they go through the hell they do in the border have you even considered that many die trying?? mexico only gives visa to rich ppl you morons thats why most HAVE to do it the hard way
Posted by: feels betrayed | Jun 29, 2011 11:29:28 PM