Friday, June 20, 2008

English-Only Movement Momentum

USA reports that English as an official language has gained momentum as proponents keep going to the ballot box with measures that discourage bilingual ballots, notices and documents.

Thirty states now have laws specifying that official government communications be in English, says U.S. English Inc., a group that promotes the laws. This year such bills are under consideration in 19 legislatures.  For the full story, click here.


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You have to admit it, it forces immigrants to assimilate faster if they want to take part in the "American Dream". It has been said that there are probably over 7,000 languages in the world. This planetary scale Tower of Babel forces most nations to settle on one as a source of unity. How far should we go in teaching ESL immigrants in their own language? The taxpayer might better be served by denying legal residency to people who can't speak English. I'm sure that are millions of foreign English speakers willing to take the places of our ageing work force. Shouldn't we be getting the brightest and best, and couldn't the propensity to learning languages be used as a determinant for qualifications of such people? After all, it takes up to a decade to gain residency, time enough to become proficient at their own expense, during the interim.

Although growing in the number of speakers, Spanish is moribund, in that unlike the ever expanding vocabulary of the English language, it depends upon adopting English words to grow. No language in the world is growing faster in vocabulary than English, making it the most expressive language in existance.

Posted by: Horace | Jun 20, 2008 4:38:50 PM

As Usual, I completely disagree with your close-minded views of what our immigration policies should be.

Making English the official language will only be detrimental to the rights and development of non-english speakers. And guess what, that includes more than just immigrants. It includes alot of citizens who have never really had access to government, such as the poor (african americans, latinos, whites), because of lack of education and other systemic inequalities. The solution as mentioned in the article, is providing more ESL services. Not spending valuable legislative time passing idiotic and backward looking English only policies. It's simply not going to work, Any government employee will tell you that it is impossible to enforce and only makes their job more difficult.

And Spanish is not moribund, are you serious. Anyone who knows anything about language knows that English is probably one of the most nonsensical languages out there. Spanish on the contrary is growing and has grown more than English in the last 500 years. For an example see all of Latin America.

You simply don't know what you are talking about.

Posted by: RRP | Jun 21, 2008 7:05:50 PM

As RRP response to Horace. a usual response from a closed minded, nativist and Protectionist person.

How much do you know about History, Assimilation and Language Horace? I posted a great History video were prior waves of Migration to this Country were assimilated not but language but principles of This Country.

I wonder why we called English Muffin when is not from England?
Why is it called a "building" when its already built?

If you can't drink and drive, why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor, and why do bars have parking lots?
There are many questions about logical and nonsense of the English language. Did you know about it?

Oh what about this one too. Why is "crazy man" an insult, while to insert a comma and say "Crazy, man!" is a compliment?
Why is it that no word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver, or purple?

Strange Isn't...

Posted by: Michael | Jun 22, 2008 9:41:57 AM

"s RRP response to Horace. a usual response from a closed minded, nativist and Protectionist person."

I'm proud to be protectionist if that means I'm protecting this nation from those who undermine our laws and democratic principles in pursuit of ethnocentric special interests and unearned political power. Our immigration laws are the result of a logical, legitimate and constitutional legislative process, even with their faults. Call me nativist, but isn't opposition (or should I call you anti-democratic) like yourself without the law on it's side without substance and just so much hot air? Yes, I side with the citizens, the people enfranchised with the right to vote, the people cited in that document that begins with the words, "We the People.....". The Constitution was formed for "ourselves and our Posterity, if you remember the preamble, which means the citizens and no one else. Remember that Michael? The document that you seem to think gives non-citizens the same rights as the rest of us. That right to vote is that extra special right that bestows stewardship to me and all other citizens, so you see, not all people in this country have every right enumerated in the Constitution. Do you call that right, exclusive to citizens, nativist power, because that's exactly what it is. Do you know what stewardship means, Michael, it means that "We the people.." get to say who is and who isn't entitled to be in this country, the rules of naturalization, and which violations of our laws are grounds for deportation. The power and rights of "We the People" are what you Marxist open border types fail to comprehend, as you are rabid transnationalists, without loyalty to one nation. In a way, most of us are nativists, as we tend to care whether the country retains its sovereignty, and doesn't become a satellite of another nation, such as Mexico, through mass amnesty of invaders who would no doubt retain dual citizenship and split loyalties. We nativists would never find it wise to trust the loyalty of a dual national of a country with borders contiguous to ours, especially during times when our interests conflict.

Posted by: Horace | Jun 22, 2008 7:42:28 PM

Do you know what it means to leave everything you have as a human being, for you to leave your family, (Parents, Brothers, kids, Friends) to leave your childhood, memories and go to a country where you are a total stranger, undesirable, unwanted, and to start life over again?
So Horace I see your critical criticism as a political, Nativist and protectionist point of view.
And That's my main problem; People like you using political power, taking the Law on their own Hands, being closed minded, being Nativism and protectionism to diminished, criminalized, persecute segregate, torn families appart and blamed Undocumented and legal Immigrants for searching a better life.
Since when searching for a better life is a crime?
Where are those Human values of us as Americans? Compassion? Helping others on their needs?
Since when Hyprocisy is part of Human and Family Values Horace?
And I want to encourage you to continue searching the real History of Immigrants to America.
Or that's the Country you aspires to be? Leader of what? Unlawful Invasions? Law is the Law. What part of Human being do you not understand Horace?

Posted by: Michael | Jun 23, 2008 10:53:32 AM

"People like you using political power, taking the Law on their own Hands, being closed minded, being Nativism and protectionism to diminished, criminalized, persecute segregate, torn families appart and blamed Undocumented and legal Immigrants for searching a better life."

Taking the law into my own hands, how so? I don't need to take the law into my own hands, as laws already exist to discourage illegal immigration. It's you and your friends who have no basis in law to support your charitable efforts. Protectionism? I do not oppose the present due process for attaining citizenship, nor do I oppose the acceptance of those who go through that process. Those who do not use our established due process, do so of their own free will, knowing full well the potential consequences of their actions. I won't treat them like children, as your patronizing amnestas do. I don't blame illegal immigrants for searching for a better life, but I do hold them responsible for their actions. I have little respect for Mexican illegal aliens, as the Mexican people do not even have the courage of opposing the government in Mexico City that's responsible for their plight. Instead, they play the victim and flee their homeland. I wouldn't have much respect for my fellow Americans who would fail to stand up for justice.

It is a well recognized fact that Mexico is the way it is because of its own corruption, failure to collect taxes from the rich and lack of courage on the part of its people to make change happen. There are Mexican origninated commentaries that lament the submissive nature of the Mexican people in the face of their tribulations. Mexico is known for its natural mineral wealth, to include it's state owned mismanaged oil industry. These clowns are letting their oil industry decline because they refuse to recognize that they need assistance from outside private interests! The people of the U.S. should not accept the burden of the product of Meixico's failures.

It's weaklings and gullible people like you Michael that fall for the propaganda of corrupt Latin American governments and refuse to call them to account for the mismanagment of their economic and social policies. As to Mexico, without a demonstrated inclination to reform, there is no reason why the U.S. people should make the huge sacrifices required to make up for the poor education and poverty of the Mexican people, never mind give people who've shown nothing but contempt for our legal system amnesty. While you might like to save the world from its own follies, even the U.S. doesn't have the resources to do that.

Posted by: Horace | Jun 23, 2008 4:58:04 PM

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